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Early Hearing Aids
Ear horn and ear trumpet lead to this page, but it contains no information about them. This page leads you to horn (acoustic), which just leads you back here again. Which means there's essentially no information on Wikipedia about ear trumpets.... Why isn't there a separate article? --Toastedcheese (talk) 23:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Quick question
Does the fact that hearing aids amplify sound for a person who already has hearing loss speed up the rate at which such a person loses their hearing? I'm completely deaf in one ear and partially in the other, myself; but I've never had a hearing aid nor even had one suggested for me. Corporal 20:56, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Visiting an audiologist or an Ear-Nose-Throat physician (outside of the US, Canada and the UK) is always your best bet. To me this sounds like an ad, not NPOV. --Etxrge 06:47, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Advice duly accepted. As I was the one who put up the original statement, I have edited it a little for clarity.--Coryp 20:57, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
As an audiologist in the UK for the last 18 years, I've yet to see any evidence that hearing aid use speeds up the rate of hearing loss. If you have it, I would be very keen to see it.--86.148.60.22 (talk) 23:06, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I am an audiologist and have never known hearing aid rehabilitation leading to a further deterioration in hearing. There are cases where hearing naturally deteriorates over time (presbyacusis) but a hearing aid would not accelerate this progression which is often seen as a result of increasing age. -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.72.207.144 (talk) 19:58, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
Re:violation of NPOV
Quote: "This chapter is biased determinative opinion which is in violation of NPOV.In the similar way ststement "audiologists are often provides substandard services" would be equallyt unacceptable." What exactly does all this mean?
Have you ever bought a digital hearing aid? One that hasn't been thoroughly adjusted to your individual needs, measured and electonically/digitally tested? Only a qualified audiometrist (or its equivalent titles and accompanying qualifications) can do that. You may want to throw £200 away but I would rather spend £800 on professional services which can guarantee (or as near as dammit) me an aid that works for me. This has absolutely nothing to do with POV, this is helpful reminder of what may happen if you don't care. Have reversed the para in the article. Dieter Simon 00:48, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
To: Dieter Simon. You can't simply give advises based on your personal experience. If you want give information about alternative way of getting HA , such as online its fine, but you can't say "this is better than that, so don't do that'. "BEWARE"(???). You put warning inside the information article.(???) Who are you kidding. You want to state "There is A and there is B". Fine. You want to say "A is the first letter and B is second". Fine. But you can't simply state "I like B. It's better sound. It's better than A". Why do I even have to explain this basic things about neutrality to a grown person, unless he has a personal agenda. BTW I clearly explained reason for my edit. Go ahead refresh your info about rules of NPOV. That what you should've done before reediting me. Do the right thing and undo your edit. P.S. BTW Been there, done it. Both way. Our personal experiences has nothing to do with neutral and unbiased info. Even if they 100% true. There is numerous discussion boards, forums to vent your anger, to express your personal opinion or to give advice. One of it,which I put link to could've been just the right place for you. And why did you remove link to it? What's resonable unbiased explanation you can give me about it? Mind boggling...216.233.120.165
To: Dieter Simon.If you would've been asked to create a manual for TV set, people would've know exactly which program is best for them, but have no idea how to switch channels. Give them info of how to use it and let them make their own mind what to watch. You replace one mess with another. Same judgmental opinion, only now compounded into semantic."Need, should, have to, must be, more important"... A lot of recommendations, very little info. May be I am not fair to your efforts. Criticizing you all the time and you are the one who's trying... But I have to. You have such a record contributing to Wiki, you should know better what favoritism means. I might take up on your advise and contribute to this issue in a little while. Meanwhile, I see that you are making attempts, but perhaps something personal, biased holding you back. You asked me a few questions before. I answered them. Now its my turn. Are you an audi? Do you have any personal relation to that field? Regards.216.233.120.165
Desert Hearing Care Video
Buyer beware
It should be noted that the heading "Buyer beware" has been reverted some time ago as being POV. Expect the worst. Heading changer beware. Dieter Simon 22:54, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Hearing Aid Sale
It was not an experiment. I've contributed to this article before. If you have bias or no info regarding the article paragraph please restrain yourself of further editing. The latest edit provided very little or hardly any related info regarding paragraph title. If the potential editor willing to make informative contribution I'll be gladly provide some points to cover for the paragraph title purpose. I'm reverting it back to previous version by SM. Please discus it before you attempt to make any changes. 216.233.121.2 6:42PM MAY9 2006
and, still, i would like to hear of personal experience regarding types and makes of HA. I need this for my old mother (88) who is a misician , loosing her hearing. thanks ashrab
A reminder to please keep opinions out of the article itself, especially in the "hearing aid sales" section. (I've made some small edits to bring this back in line with WP policy.) Government standards for consumer practices are things we can cite and leave verifiable for readers. No matter how good or helpful you think advice is, advice and opinions that are not previously published and cited from a reliable source cannot be verified and, thus, do not belong in the article. --Ds13 17:23, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Buying a Hearing Aid The article should make it clear that outside the United States many advanced countries have health services which supply free or cheap hearing aids. Such a service has no built-in money making bias so the advice given is probably more trustworthy. 82.47.176.254 23:20, 2 January 2007 (UTC)mikeL
Hearing Loop systems
I have added a note to the telecoil section about hearing loops. I was surprised that there seems currently no article about these on WP but I guess it is because they remain relatively rare in the US. In the UK they are almost mandatory in many public places because of our Disability Discrimination Act 2005. For a number of years I have been on the Environmental Aids committee of Hearing Concern - see http://www.hearingconcern.org.uk/campaigns/camp_envaids.html
I shall shortly be writing a seperate article on Induction Loop systems to expand this topic. Dsergeant 15:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Hard of Hearing Advocacy link
The link I tried to add was removed because it was was considered spam. If you go to the "US and News and World Report" site and do a search on hearing aids, you will find a comprehensive article regarding hearing aids, "Good Vibrations: They're still hearing aids. But they're better--and smaller". In this article the site I tried to add is referenced along with all the other sites that are already in the external link to this article. The following is a quote from the article:
"If Ralph Nader had run a website in the '60s for people with hearing problems, it might have been like Hard of Hearing Advocates. Nothing and no one are beyond criticism on this volunteer-run site. The message board is especially feisty."
I am confused as to how this was perceived as spam as this site does not sell anything and I don't believe there are any advertisements on it either. This is the premier hard of hearing online forum. hoha2 00:18 AM, April 20 2007 (UTC)
Pasting the following from elsewhere in reply to hoha2's comments:
Dieter Simon 22:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Recent advancements etc.
There are many references in this article to "recently" that I would think need "as of" beside them. I don't know if the recent advancements mentioned are from now (2007) or from the day wikipedia was started. Just giving "as of" would be enough, because the word "recently" can only apply for a while, and can mean anything (World War I was a recent war compared to the crusades, but WWI isn't recent at all compared to Desert Storm). Just give the date whatever was introduced, or if you only know that its recent, at least say "recent as of" so that the article can stand up to time even if it isn't continually edited. I'd like to think the guidelines would want articles in a state that if archived now would still provide a lot of accurate information in a thousand years. If I'm wrong about this set me straight. I'm not a contributor to this article and may never read it again who knows, but I thought those that were may be able to provide more accurate dates, or as I said at least mention when it was written. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Hastor (talk o contribs) 06:31, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
Propose to remove sections about In USA, and out of USA
These sections don't belong in a global article, besides they lack referances therefore I hearby challange them! DCwom 12:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
The whole article seems to me to be written from a United States point of view and to be based on assumptions that US practices of supply, provision and prices are universal. They are not universal. That is why I added the two lines that you don't like.
(The other name 'Deaf Aid' is quite acceptable. WP needs it listing with a re-direction)
(heres a reference http://www.rnid.org.uk/information_resources/hearing_aids/ I can't give you references in french, german, spanish etc. because I am not fluent enough to find them and I might send you somewhere inappropriate ) 77.97.161.230 09:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)mikeL
MikeL, I think you misunderstand me, I agree with you that the article is US centric. These two sections, in and out of USA are both unreferenced anyway, and should be removed if no one supplies referances soon. DCwom 12:40, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- In a small attempt to compensate for the US bias, I added a (referenced!) note about the situation in the UK. That now sits uncomfortably in the section about US practice so I'll move it now. Whilst I agree that the current version is unbalanced, I do think that information about different arrangements for supplying hearing aids across the globe is relevant and should be retained. What's needed is a thorough edit of these two sections, not just a simple deletion. Kahuzi 20:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Removed unrefered section on sales. DCwom 19:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Needs Many More Refs
This article contains both technical and medical related information, and therefore needs many more references. Currently the article is somewhere between a tutorial and a sales brochure. The article is also too long for an encyclopedia, there is too much detail about the particilars of each instrument type. DCwom 13:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
Modulate
According to the introduction hearing aids are used to "amplify and modulate" sounds. My understanding is that they selectively amplify (and perhaps attenuate) different frequencies to different degrees in much the same way as a recording sound engineer or an electric guitar player does with an equaliser. It is misleading to use the word 'modulate'. In engineering modulation refers to modifying a carrier wave in some way to carry information. 77.97.161.230 (talk) 22:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)mikeL
I was also confused by the term modulate and agree that it should be removed. (Brenwah (talk) 23:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)).
Concha/pinna
In the ITE section it states that "These devices fit in the outer ear bowl (called the concha or pinna)". Is it too pedantic to say that "concha" is the name of the outer ear bowl, whereas "pinna" refers to the whole of the ear outside the skull, and should this be amended? --81.159.138.215 (talk) 17:19, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
POV tag on new section dealing with US regulation of hearing aids
The new section on US regulations seems overly detailed with its many complex citations of legal cases and specific state and federal regulations. It seems likely to over-complicate a reader's decision to purchase a hearing aid, especially by mail; and also likely to make him uneasy about making such a decision. The repetition of the vaguely threatening phrase "restricted devices" makes hearing aids sound rather dangerous - in one place, the writer calls them Class I "restricted devices", but in fact the FDA defines Class I devices as "those presenting the least risk". Per the FDA, "Restricted devices are the subset of FDA-regulated devices over which FDA has advertising jurisdiction. They include, for example, hearing aids, certain types of contact lenses and diagnostic tests, and many types of high-risk devices." Not so scary now, eh?
The section seems out of balance with the rest of the article. I recommend that it be removed entirely, or stripped down to a few basic facts, such as that the FDA controls the advertising and sale of hearing aids, that state regulations may vary (without citing the most onerous), and a simple NPOV summary of the FDA rules on buying a hearing aid, no more and no less. --CliffC (talk) 21:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Regarding the link on the Hearing Aids page to Healthy Hearing
Regarding on "What to link" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:EL The site Healthy Hearing has an in depth collection of articles, common questions, and user guides that cover in depth not only aspects of hearing aids, but hearing loss in general. Additionally, a comprehensive funding guide is available free of charge to help persons who have hearing loss and need hearing aids. The site is staffed by audiologists and professional writers who have expertise in teaching and writing about hearing loss and hearing aids http://www.healthyhearing.com/about - The site is also the only official site selected by Google News to cover the topic of hearing loss and hearing aids. Therefore, the ongoing news and articles (example) http://www.healthyhearing.com/articles/42690-care-for-hearing-aids that are beyond the scope of what a Wikipedia article would typically cover. This is in connection with "Such links could contain further research that is accurate and on-topic, information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail, or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article for reasons unrelated to its accuracy."
The site does contain advertising, but this is no different than your local newspaper website. It has independent news and information about a topic, but it has to generate ad revenue. Healthy Hearing is really like the national USA Today for hearing loss and hearing aids. I am assuming that this is why the link is in question - but it would mean that on a Wikipedia article on Newspapers that you could not create wiki pages on those newspapers nor could you link to those newspaper websites as examples.
If you take the time to read through the articles, news releases, the consumer guides and the common questions, you will see what I am talking about. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.94.216.178 (talk) 15:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
The comment above was copied from User talk:Wsiegmund.[1] Walter Siegmund (talk) 15:28, 16 October 2009 Do (UTC)
In the ear hearing aids
I get the impression that "in the ear" hearing aids are essentially restricted to hearing losses of "up to" -35 db, because of battery size. But would need a good reference.
Also shells stink for listening in front of a person. There are good reasons to use in the ear, besides vanity. They use your ear as a collector and a person can hear better than someone with a shell. If this isn't here, it should be IMO. Student7 (talk) 17:44, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
@Student7: Your understanding of "in the ear" is based on old technology. I am an audiologist with a severe to profound hearing loss and use completely-in-the-canal (CIC) hearing aids which output up to 132 dB SPL. I'm not exactly sure where you are going with your second point, but that sounds a lot like an opinion. --Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.196.146.74 (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Historical context?
I can't see anything in the article to set it in a historical context; it's all "older", "earliest", "recent" and "today"- terms which are essentially meaningless. When was the first hearing aid developed? When did the behind the ear ones get invented? There's no timeline at all, no sense of how one thing developed into the next over a period of years. For all I know, they could all have been developed at the same time. There's a line about "the late 1950s through 1970s, before in-the-ear aids became common" and that's the only place I can see anything like a date. (I know nothing about hearing aids, and I wandered over here looking for when they were first developed.) MorganaFiolett (talk) 09:53, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Songbird Hearing
I contacted the Songbird Hearing people, who turn out to be an ordering service with little or no knowledge of audiology or hearing aid technology. This product is not a true hearing aid, but an across-the board amplifier at all frequencies (and not a very flat response. either, according to their PDF chart). Furthermore, it is not a disposable unit as claimed in the article, but uses batteries like other consumer devices. The current price is $495 per ear, which is high for this very basic functionality as compared with similar advertised devices. For all these reasons, the device should not be mentioned in Wikipedia in contexts in which it does not belong. David Spector (talk) 17:37, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
History section?
This article could use a good History section. Misty MH (talk) 13:33, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Undefined acronyms
Several acronyms are used in this article but are undefined. A few examples are: CIC, ITC, and MIC. It looks like they were once defined but the article has been trimmed too much and now that information is missing. Could someone please replace the missing information and make sure that all acronyms are defined at least once? Thanks very much. Softlavender (talk) 02:21, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
Citation needed!
The articles states that interference is rare for hearing loop systems, but gives no source for that claim. I feel this is quite misleading. Interference is in fact a big problem. See for example http://www.emaa.com.au/documents/accessdocs/AFILS_Info_Sheet.pdf which states "If there are other loop systems close by, the problem of overlap of sound must be addressed. This is a serious problem if the auditoria are next to or above one another. There are various ways to resolve this overlap but consult the experts while the design is still in its early stage. There are many unsatisfactory audio-magnetic loop installations. It is an area for the specialist, rather than the average electrical consultant or contractor. Consultation may be necessary at the early design stage as well as when the building is under construction." Unfortunately, much of the information publicly available about loop systems is put out by people who have a financial incentive to promote the use of such systems, even when cheaper alternatives would be better for people whose hearing is impaired. HouseOfChange (talk) 16:23, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Digital Hearing Aid
There is a great deal of overlap between Digital Hearing Aid and this article; much of what isn't covered here in that new article is WP:OR or WP:SYNTHESIS, often referenced by product pages. I propose that we merge it here. Dai Pritchard (talk) 14:30, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
- merge with heavy trimming and consolidation. --Animalparty-- (talk) 01:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Merge. It had been speedy deleted as duplicate page of hearing aid(I had posted the speedy tag); not sure if that would apply again or not; but it should at least be merged/redirected. 331dot (talk) 09:05, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
- Merge. It looks like this is one of several articles written by a paid editor, likely to promote one specific product. I've given the editor a COI warning, accordingly. That aside, I can't see where this really needs to have a completely separate page. Tokyogirl79 (?????) 08:05, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
- Done Klbrain (talk) 23:18, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
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Edit Request
In section seven of the Hearing aid page, the information about rechargeable batteries does not reflect the advancements over the past few years in rechargeable hearing aid battery technology. Here is the information in question:
"While there are some rare instances that a hearing aid uses a rechargeable battery or a long-life disposable battery, the majority of modern hearing aids use one of five standard button cell zinc-air batteries."
Suggested copy changes:
"Within the past several years, major advancements in rechargeable hearing aid battery technology have resulted in nearly every major hearing aid manufacturer now offering a rechargeable battery option using either silver zinc chemistry or lithium ion chemistry. These batteries are powerful enough to support the wireless streaming capabilities of modern hearing aids while also providing an all-day charge."
Here are links to the various rechargeable hearing aids currently on the market:
Silver Zinc:
http://www.starkey.com/hearing-aids/rechargeable-hearing-aids http://unitron.com/content/unitron/global/en/professional/hearing-solutions/tempus.html#FitR-2 https://www.beltonene.com/zpower_rechargeable_hearing_aids.html https://www.oticon.com/inside-oticon/news/news/2017/april-4-2017---opn-rechargeable http://www.nuear.com/hearing-aids/technologies/now-wireless-hearing-aids
Lithium Ion:
https://www.phonak.com/us/en/about-us/rechargeable-os-technology.html https://www.sivantos.com/en/press/2016/07/05/sivantos-unveils-the-worlds-most-advanced-lithium-ion-inductive-rechargeable-hearing-aid/
If these citations are too commercial, here is the link to an article in a trade publication about rechargeable hearing aid options:
https://www.hearingtracker.com/blog/rechargeable-hearing-aids-a-look-at-the-options-for-2017/
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Differences digital/analogue
"Analogue hearing aids amplify (makes louder) all the sounds picked up by the microphone" - not true, I am sure many analogue devices had something like an an Equalization (audio) and/or Equalization (communications) as well as some more filters. Similarly "This allows amplifying the sounds of certain frequency" is not something that analogue devices were incapable of doing. Neither is frequency range compression a groundbreaking technology that would be in any way difficult to do with an analogue device. Feedback reduction? The same.. and so on. 2.247.252.86 (talk) 14:18, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
This page is a mess.
Hey folks,
I'm trying to improve this page - there is a ton of outdated, flat out incorrect information, and badly sourced information.
Jytdog is removing my edits but has left up most of the article that is poorly sourced or incorrect. I am happy to provide more sources, but if edits are going to be removed for source issues, please delete all information on the page that is not sourced or poorly sourced.
Thank you, Sigsaly (talk) 17:12, 15 November 2017 (UTC)siglsaly
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